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that that's a legitimate ground for government action. that's a question that is really very much before the supreme court right now, which is, is moral disapproval alone a legitimate basis for a government to act. >> i understand the intellectual legal argument he's making on this point but it sounds to the layperson out there that he's comparing homosexuality to beastiality or to murder. >> and he is. he is making that comparison. he can throw in all of the latin words he want but he is making that comparison. but that's his position. i mean, his position is, moral disapproval of homosexuality, of beastiality, of murder is a legitimate ground for government action and the question is, do four other justices agree with him? historically at the supreme court he has had several justices with him. it's unclear whether he will have fifth time and it's also unclear whether he should be expressing himself this way with such an important guy rights case, you know, right in front of the court. >> because some people are saying already he should
that that's a legitimate ground for government action. that's a question that is really very much before the supreme court right now, which is, is moral disapproval alone a legitimate basis for a government to act. >> i understand the intellectual legal argument he's making on this point but it sounds to the layperson out there that he's comparing homosexuality to beastiality or to murder. >> and he is. he is making that comparison. he can throw in all of the latin words he want but...
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. >> how do you get a government loan to go back to school? >> this is a big question because through the government it is going to be more affordable than private student loans but a lot of people are worried about accessing that money. >> right. this is actually a good time to start thinking about it. january 1st kicks off fast this season. and that stands for the free application for federal student aid. if you want a loan or grant or scholarship of any kind for college, you must fill out the f fafsa. you can estimate your income figures, do it immediately. there are loans out there. there is the federal stafford loan, one of the most commonly granted loans for people who want to go back to college. depending on income, she might qualify for free money, like the pell grant. >> the money into pell grant is increased under the obama administration. >> that could change, but it is important you do this as early as possible there m. there may be programs through the school, and they're on a first come first served basis. so the earlier you get
. >> how do you get a government loan to go back to school? >> this is a big question because through the government it is going to be more affordable than private student loans but a lot of people are worried about accessing that money. >> right. this is actually a good time to start thinking about it. january 1st kicks off fast this season. and that stands for the free application for federal student aid. if you want a loan or grant or scholarship of any kind for college,...
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i say all programs need to be examined in this government. this government wasting money every day. no doubt about that. we have got to do better. food stamps was totally exempt from change when it has gone up four times in the last ten years. >> two of those times you voted for it. 2002 and 2008 you voted for it. some people are saying you voted -- >> i voted for the ag bill that had that in it, probably so. >> nice to have you with us, sir. >> thank you, soledad. >>> still ahead on "starting point" spending time with the family could be a little bit tense. you know what they say? who put the fun in dysfunctional? ed burns has a new movie that captured that crazy chaotic dynamic in the fitzgerald family christmas. he'll talk about that, straight ahead. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus ha
i say all programs need to be examined in this government. this government wasting money every day. no doubt about that. we have got to do better. food stamps was totally exempt from change when it has gone up four times in the last ten years. >> two of those times you voted for it. 2002 and 2008 you voted for it. some people are saying you voted -- >> i voted for the ag bill that had that in it, probably so. >> nice to have you with us, sir. >> thank you, soledad....
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the federal government still says federal government is illegal. >>> pay no attention to the space ship in the car. the x-37b, robotic space plane will lift off from cape canaveral. the vehicle's third mission. unmanned reusable version of the space shuttle. lifts off vertically, lands on autopilot on a runway. what is it carrying? and the cost of developing is classified. >> all sorts of speculation online what this is carrying. bombs, weapons, we just don't know. it's a secret. >>> eight minutes after the hour. three weeks until the fiscal cliff. you can't see it, but there are hints of progress on capitol hill. live to washington, coming up. >>> also ahead, a judge rules in a politically charged battle over license plates in one state. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for you
the federal government still says federal government is illegal. >>> pay no attention to the space ship in the car. the x-37b, robotic space plane will lift off from cape canaveral. the vehicle's third mission. unmanned reusable version of the space shuttle. lifts off vertically, lands on autopilot on a runway. what is it carrying? and the cost of developing is classified. >> all sorts of speculation online what this is carrying. bombs, weapons, we just don't know. it's a secret....
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government has chosen to designate them. they've not said the al nusri front is a whole new separate terrorist entity. they said the al nusri front is another name for al qaeda in iraq. remember them four to five years ago behind the deaths of so many american soldiers there. that of course points out to what they believe are many of the links between those insurgents in iraq who they now think are fighting with syrian rebels against president bashar al assad. al nusri, radical, behind suicide bombings which many say have caught civilians in their blast. this move complicating because it says to many syrians while america supports you and your rebellion against president assad it doesn't like about 10% of the fightings doing the most effective job in that fight. wolf. >> what's the bottom line over there? what do the rebel, the opposition forces say? how are they reacting to this news about the al nusri group, one of the leading rebel organizations over there, now being declared formally by the united states a terrorist orga
government has chosen to designate them. they've not said the al nusri front is a whole new separate terrorist entity. they said the al nusri front is another name for al qaeda in iraq. remember them four to five years ago behind the deaths of so many american soldiers there. that of course points out to what they believe are many of the links between those insurgents in iraq who they now think are fighting with syrian rebels against president bashar al assad. al nusri, radical, behind suicide...
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when the government turned him down, he suddenly fell ill and was rushed to hospital. doctors diagnosed the 67-year-old as suffering from stress and returned him to detention. while his attorney says that at least for now he's been able to stop mcafee's deportation back to belize, where police are still waiting to question him. so a judge has given you a stay? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: just what comes next in this murder turned soap opera, no one can say. mcafee's saga shares something in common with the software he created, staying current requires constant updates. >> and martin joins us now from guatemala city. martin, were you able to ask him about now? i heard now he wants to return to the u.s. >> reporter: that's right, ted, yeah. he held that very bizarre kind of news conference over the internet last night. it was the classic, you can put me in jail, but my news will break out. it shows he's still the master when it comes to self-promotion. since he had this news conference, he allowed us to e-mail questions, and i asked him that very thing. would he consider g
when the government turned him down, he suddenly fell ill and was rushed to hospital. doctors diagnosed the 67-year-old as suffering from stress and returned him to detention. while his attorney says that at least for now he's been able to stop mcafee's deportation back to belize, where police are still waiting to question him. so a judge has given you a stay? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: just what comes next in this murder turned soap opera, no one can say. mcafee's saga shares...
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but the federal government didn't discriminate in giving out benefits. >> if you do get married, will you have to have the same tax breaks and benefits -- >> exactly. tax benefits, family medical leave act if you work for the federal government -- all of those same benefits. >> it's interesting that the obama administration is not defending the law with the justice department. is that significant? >> it's very significant. it's pretty unusual. it happens once in a while. obama's come out and said, we've looked at this. it's a legal issue that we've looked at and it is an unconstitutional statute so we're not going to defend it. could be a political thing, too. >> what does that mean for gay people if the defense of marriage act is struck down in this country? >> it just means that we're going to have availability of benefits on the federal level. we have them on the state level for those states that have same-sex marriage. but it's not going to make it illegal not to have same-sex marriage. it will be a start in the right direction for full rights for gay people. >> for self-esteem an
but the federal government didn't discriminate in giving out benefits. >> if you do get married, will you have to have the same tax breaks and benefits -- >> exactly. tax benefits, family medical leave act if you work for the federal government -- all of those same benefits. >> it's interesting that the obama administration is not defending the law with the justice department. is that significant? >> it's very significant. it's pretty unusual. it happens once in a while....
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government stole my baby. she makes a cradling gesture. records confirm she did lose custody of a child. the sheriff says she wore the same outfit in the bank, at her arrest and in her youtube video. a youtube that is now evidence that could send her down the tubes. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> can't make this kind of stuff up. you can always follow what's going on in the situation room on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer. the news continues next on cnn. >>> hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. you're in the "cnn newsroom." egypt's president has canceled a decree that gave him sweeping powers and set off a wave of deadly protests. at the time, critics accused mohamed morsi of a power grab and adviser to morsi says the government will push forward to a referendum on the new constitution, despite concerns from the opposition. going to go live to cairo in a few minutes here. >>> a well known islamic militant, the leader of a terror network, is locked up in egypt and there is an american connection. the fbi is working to figure out what role, if an
government stole my baby. she makes a cradling gesture. records confirm she did lose custody of a child. the sheriff says she wore the same outfit in the bank, at her arrest and in her youtube video. a youtube that is now evidence that could send her down the tubes. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> can't make this kind of stuff up. you can always follow what's going on in the situation room on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer. the news continues next on cnn. >>> hello, everyone. i'm...
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>> the local government right now is on its search and retrieval operation. however, there are just some areas which are very difficult to reach because at this time, the roads are destroyed. however, the local government is speeding up their search and rescue and retrieval operations in this area, and also, one mission with the local government and other partners with the area can provide for the survivors. >> you are part of a response team. and we know that in crises like this, it's the responders who have personal challenges of their own. how are the responders reacting to this and coping with it all? >> yeah, actually, working in the humanitarian aid or working emergency response is really a tough job. it's really difficult to see the people's faces where they are very emotion al. there were those who were crying. you know, what makes me feel right now is to do whatever i can do, do the best i can do in order to serve the people, to be able to help with the people who are in need. that's the best thing that you can see them somehow, when world vision cam
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it is a government effort to balance what passengers want and safety concerns. airline pilots can use ipad flight manuals, begging the question, if they can, why can't we? >> when we use this device, all of the transmission capability is turned off. the problem in the cabin is that there's so many possible combination of personal devices, cell phones and ipads, that the industry hasn't come up with an acceptable test standard to truly determine if in those infinite combinations there's interference. >> reporter: a recent study noted 75 instances in which consumer electronics were suspected of disrupting airplane systems. some are skeptical. >> i don't think it really effects the planes any. so i look at it as an optional rule, if that makes sense. >> i think someone needs to prove to me it is really an issue. i don't know if it's true or not. >> reporter: carl beer sack with a cell phone advocacy group wants to take it a step further. >> people do more than ipad and nook. they actually want to talk to someone, that's what a cell phone is about. >> reporter: and
it is a government effort to balance what passengers want and safety concerns. airline pilots can use ipad flight manuals, begging the question, if they can, why can't we? >> when we use this device, all of the transmission capability is turned off. the problem in the cabin is that there's so many possible combination of personal devices, cell phones and ipads, that the industry hasn't come up with an acceptable test standard to truly determine if in those infinite combinations there's...
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not the federal government. the federal government, the last word they have is the defense of marriage act. and what makes this so significant is that the supreme court has not really engaged with the issue of -- of gay rights since 2003. nine years. that's a long time. the country has changed dramatically in those nine years. there is a new gallup poll out that says 53% of americans support same sex marriage. our cnn exit poll said 49% of people support same sex marriage. in the '90s, that number was in the 20s. the country is changing very quickly. that doesn't necessarily mean the supreme court will follow along. look for a lot of attention between now and when the case is argued, probably in march, on anthony kennedy because he has been the swing vote in all of the gay rights cases and he is the author of the two most important gay rights decisions of the supreme court. and even though kennedy is usually with the conservatives, he has always been with the liberals on gay rights. so he will be very much the f
not the federal government. the federal government, the last word they have is the defense of marriage act. and what makes this so significant is that the supreme court has not really engaged with the issue of -- of gay rights since 2003. nine years. that's a long time. the country has changed dramatically in those nine years. there is a new gallup poll out that says 53% of americans support same sex marriage. our cnn exit poll said 49% of people support same sex marriage. in the '90s, that...
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if you were in support of more government you got a positive score. if you were in support of less government you got a negative score, which seems completely contrary for what you would expect for republicans. >> that's certainly one line we've heard. you guys that lost your positions were too conservative or too tea party but others are saying because you guys went out of your way not only to vote against leadership but seemed like you were trying to embarrass them at times. what do you say about that? >> that's totally ridiculous. this is not a conservative versus liberal thing. there are people like me in congress who are out there, representing the vast majority of americans who want us to balance our budget. it's not a matter of who is willing to work with democrats or republicans. for example, i have a balanced budget amendment to the constitution that has 14 democratic co-sponsors. it's one of the most popular bipartisan budget proposals out there. it's not about who will work with democrats or who will work with republicans who are who is too
if you were in support of more government you got a positive score. if you were in support of less government you got a negative score, which seems completely contrary for what you would expect for republicans. >> that's certainly one line we've heard. you guys that lost your positions were too conservative or too tea party but others are saying because you guys went out of your way not only to vote against leadership but seemed like you were trying to embarrass them at times. what do you...
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if you're jim demint, you want a much smaller government. as long as east been in the senate, he hasn't been able to accomplish what he wants. >> a lot of people say you have more influence from the inside than you do on the outside. it will be curious. who will they appoint? >> there are four congressman just reelected in south carolina. representative scott is african-american. that would be fascinating if she appointed the first african-american republican senator. the party could use some diverse faces. it's a challenge for them demographically. i don't know if you can appoint yourself in south carolina, but if she wanted to be a senator, now is not a bad time. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. >>> we're waiting to see what happens in the streets of egypt today. o opponents of morsi are calling on them to join a protest and are gathering in tahrir square. they were chanting it's time for their new president to resign. their anger was sparked two weeks ago when he granted himself sweeping power. he refuse
if you're jim demint, you want a much smaller government. as long as east been in the senate, he hasn't been able to accomplish what he wants. >> a lot of people say you have more influence from the inside than you do on the outside. it will be curious. who will they appoint? >> there are four congressman just reelected in south carolina. representative scott is african-american. that would be fascinating if she appointed the first african-american republican senator. the party...
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that's why every government, the americans, the germans, our own government have rules. you do not let civilians go down there in winter because if something happens it will be an embarrassment to the government. >> after four years he got permission, and a ship is on its way. he'll join it in south africa, and there's one thing he's looking forward to before he sets off and that is a long, hot, soapy bath. it will be his last for six months. erin. >> now the fifth story. jersey shore meets fiscal cliff. chris christie was at the white house and on capitol hill today asking for more federal funding for the storm ravaged state. a republican is asking for more money from washington, as republicans slam the president for additional spending is, well, perhaps problematic. democratic senator chuck schumer whose own home state of new york was hard-hit pointed out the irony of christie's request today saying it doesn't come at an opportune time of the fiscal cliff, both the talks and the fact we're short on money. will it hurt his party or not? roland martin joins me. good to s
that's why every government, the americans, the germans, our own government have rules. you do not let civilians go down there in winter because if something happens it will be an embarrassment to the government. >> after four years he got permission, and a ship is on its way. he'll join it in south africa, and there's one thing he's looking forward to before he sets off and that is a long, hot, soapy bath. it will be his last for six months. erin. >> now the fifth story. jersey...
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what is the federal government going to do. the only thing they've said is they're reviewing the laws, they're going to sit back and see how they are implemented and see where they can go from there. they've reminded both states pot is still illegal. i think the concern is when you create these havens of legal pot in colorado and here in washington state and have a black market around them, what's going on the effect? are these going to be magnets for illegal pot? are you going to have problems on the border a? it's not clear. they're waiting and seeing how this goes. >> thanks very much to miguel. miguel's talking about marijuana and it got us thinking about the war on drugs. it's cost this country more than a trillion dollars since it was launched by president nixon as the war on drugs 40 years aerks but the effort is being dubbed a failure and waste of money. here's former president bill clinton. >> well, obviously, if the expected results that we eliminate serious drug use in america and eliminate the narco trafficking netw
what is the federal government going to do. the only thing they've said is they're reviewing the laws, they're going to sit back and see how they are implemented and see where they can go from there. they've reminded both states pot is still illegal. i think the concern is when you create these havens of legal pot in colorado and here in washington state and have a black market around them, what's going on the effect? are these going to be magnets for illegal pot? are you going to have problems...
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this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as far as taxes are concerned? >> how we go about tax reform, there's a lot of room to work together to lower the rates. >> give me an example? >> i'm not sure where the democrats are because they have not offered a plan. >> their plan is to keep the bush tax rates from 2001, 2003 forever. make them permanent. top 2% let them go from 35% to 39.6%. >> it's incredible we're even talking about it because it doesn't solve the problem. >> it's a beginning. >> it runs the government for five or six days. >> but it's a beginning. a billion here, a billion there winds up being real money. >> the president has kno
this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as far as...
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very conservative, anti-tax, anti-government purists in the mold of jim demint. however, he also backed in republican primaries a number of republican candidates who simply were not electable according to the republican establishment and the establishment was right. for example, remember christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch, from delaware. ken buck of colorado. and others. so those are some of the reasons why he definitely has ruffled many a-feather with the party leaders and i have to tell you first thing i saw when the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell released a statement today was making the point that demint had, quote, uncompromising service. didn't have to read between the lines too much to see there's a backhanded compliment. >> dana, what about bigger picture here and talking about the republican party aenl just talking about folks like ryan and rubio, let's say, part of maybe the next generation republicans. do you think that demint's brand of republicanism is falling out of favor with sort of the newer version of what the republican party is try
very conservative, anti-tax, anti-government purists in the mold of jim demint. however, he also backed in republican primaries a number of republican candidates who simply were not electable according to the republican establishment and the establishment was right. for example, remember christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch, from delaware. ken buck of colorado. and others. so those are some of the reasons why he definitely has ruffled many a-feather with the party leaders and i have to tell you...
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or from officials of any of those latin american governments. multiple sources in the u.s., europe, and the arab world tell cnn there's no indication assad is ready to leave syria. >> is he the kind of person that would take asylum or will he go down fighting? >> i think there's a real chance that he will huddle along with his sect. the question is whether his sect will want them to huddle with them or not. he has been a failure as a president. he is a very irradic personality. >> andrew has met al assad several times and has worked with his wife. the sect he is talking about are an off chute of shia islam, that dominate syrian politics. if assad does leave, could he be investigated, eventually captured on war crimes charges? >> ecuador, venezuela, cuba, are countries where he could feel safe for the time being, but he has to be concerned about a shift in the winds and any of those governments as well. certainly no one expects the regime in those three states to continue indefinitely. >> they are more sympathetic to ass assad, but there's anothe
or from officials of any of those latin american governments. multiple sources in the u.s., europe, and the arab world tell cnn there's no indication assad is ready to leave syria. >> is he the kind of person that would take asylum or will he go down fighting? >> i think there's a real chance that he will huddle along with his sect. the question is whether his sect will want them to huddle with them or not. he has been a failure as a president. he is a very irradic personality....
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it's still illegal in the federal government's eyes. they had a celebration in front of the space needle. miguel marquez is joining us with an update on how that went last night. >> reporter: good morning. it went very well from their perspective, even though it was cold out and started to rain. didn't dampen their spirits very much. it was one of many, many parties across the state as they say the first revolutionary step was taken. ♪ >> reporter: anything less than an ounce no longer illegal in washington state. >> it's amazing. i'm not a criminal anymore. i can't go to jail for small amounts of marijuana. i'm free to be free. >> reporter: several dozen hard core smokers showed up here at the base of the space needle, symbol of the city and of the state to light up at the stroke of midnight. and while the new law does not allow smoking in public places, seattle police and police departments across the state are turning a blind eye tonight, allowing celebrations to light up. this is what you assume the stores will look like, or somet
it's still illegal in the federal government's eyes. they had a celebration in front of the space needle. miguel marquez is joining us with an update on how that went last night. >> reporter: good morning. it went very well from their perspective, even though it was cold out and started to rain. didn't dampen their spirits very much. it was one of many, many parties across the state as they say the first revolutionary step was taken. ♪ >> reporter: anything less than an ounce no...
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. >> reporter: the big question still, what will the federal government do? pot is still illegal federally. today a legal toak-up revolution burning here in colorado. the only things the feds are saying at this point is that marijuana is still illegal federally. think of it this way in washington state, it will be treated like booze, basically, hard liquor. you have to be 21. you can get busted for dui, can't drink it in public, those sorts of things. all those rules are yet to be written, in a year or so you'll have pot stores all over this state. back to you. >> a number of big employers like boeing and costco ban their employees from smoking marge math. there are other companies that have to do drug testing. will this new law change anything for employers? can workers still get fired for testing positive? >> reporter: the simple answer is no, you can still get fired. you can't smoke pot and go to work. it doesn't change anything with regard to employers who have those rules in place. even with universities here, the university of washington here is saying
. >> reporter: the big question still, what will the federal government do? pot is still illegal federally. today a legal toak-up revolution burning here in colorado. the only things the feds are saying at this point is that marijuana is still illegal federally. think of it this way in washington state, it will be treated like booze, basically, hard liquor. you have to be 21. you can get busted for dui, can't drink it in public, those sorts of things. all those rules are yet to be...
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mcafee says he's being persecuted by the belize government. he's been on the run since the killing last month. >>> and chaos in cairo. protests continue outside the presidential palace. the health ministry reports at least 4 people dead and more than 270 injured. some time in the next few hours, president mohamed morsi is expected to address the nation. demonstrators are upset with morsi's power grab last month. >>> and massive job cuts at citigroup. 11,000 jobs set to be eliminated in an effort to trim costs. citi will also consolidate or close 84 bank branches in the u.s. and other countries. >>> and an australian radio station has apologized after making a prank call to the hospital where prince william's pregnant wife, catherine, is being treated for acute morning sickness. two deejays got through to kate's private nurse after claiming to be queen elizabeth and prince charles. anderson? >> deb, thanks. >>> the connection tonight, a new way to use social media to find homes for pets in need. the pics for pets app allows users to browse thro
mcafee says he's being persecuted by the belize government. he's been on the run since the killing last month. >>> and chaos in cairo. protests continue outside the presidential palace. the health ministry reports at least 4 people dead and more than 270 injured. some time in the next few hours, president mohamed morsi is expected to address the nation. demonstrators are upset with morsi's power grab last month. >>> and massive job cuts at citigroup. 11,000 jobs set to be...
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the government needs more money. president obama wants to get some of it from the top 2% of wage earners. he wants to raise their tax rate and limit how much they can deduct. the white house says this will bring in $1.6 trillion over ten years. >> that's what the american people have voted for. >> republicans say they'll agree to bring in more money, but not by raising tax rates. in fact, they want to lower tax rates for everyone. instead they'd raise money only by limits deductions and closing loopholes. speaker boehner says this will raise $800 billion over ten years. >> america faces a serious problem. our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> step two, avoiding the drastic spending cuts that begin on january 1st, the so-called sequester. both sides want to find savings in medicare, but disagree about how to do it. >> we need a responsible white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> and step three? the debt limit. >> i will not play that game. >> because we've got a -- we have to break that h
the government needs more money. president obama wants to get some of it from the top 2% of wage earners. he wants to raise their tax rate and limit how much they can deduct. the white house says this will bring in $1.6 trillion over ten years. >> that's what the american people have voted for. >> republicans say they'll agree to bring in more money, but not by raising tax rates. in fact, they want to lower tax rates for everyone. instead they'd raise money only by limits deductions...
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too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people just want what my parents had, a chance. >> back to what you were talking about with the fiscal cliff. do you think depending on what the republicans do here in these final, what, two weeks, might that be sort of a harbinger of things to come, a harbinger of the next republican party? >> yeah. i think it will. i think what you're seeing is a party really having an identity crisis, trying to figure out what it is and who it should stand for and as you see more and more republicans sort of saying, you know what, we don't need to go over the cliff on this particular tax issue out of economic theory, we need to take a stand and appeal to the people who can actually get us elected president in the next presidential campaign and that would be the middle class. and also appeal, trying to appeal in the long-term to those minority voters. the fascinating statistic to me out of this entire election, brooke, was that in 2008, 7
too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people just want what my parents had, a chance. >> back to what you were talking about with the fiscal cliff. do you think depending on what the republicans do here in these final, what, two weeks, might that be sort of a harbinger of things to come, a harbinger of the next republican party? >> yeah. i think it will. i think what you're seeing is a party really having an...
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not orchestrated by the government, but the government is trying to pin it on him. that's what he says. >> what is he doing in guatemala? >> well, he ran there. when i talked to him, i had a very good sense he was going to run. that was quite clear. he was planning to escape. >> what did he say? >> because the way he was talking to us. the fact that he said he was going to be -- the phone he was using was not going to work anymore. he would be out of communication for some time. it had all the implications there that he was going to run, and so as a result of that, it was, okay, where would he go? mexico very close, just to the north, but then i learned that his girlfriend, with whom he was running, she's from guatemala, and to me that was the uh-huh. that's where he is going. she would have connections and family. he would have a lifeline there, and that's indeed where he ended up. >> you're not surprised that he is in guatemala, his girlfriend is in guatemala. what do you suppose is he going to be announcing? this is a guy who is on the run, and, yet, he is holdin
not orchestrated by the government, but the government is trying to pin it on him. that's what he says. >> what is he doing in guatemala? >> well, he ran there. when i talked to him, i had a very good sense he was going to run. that was quite clear. he was planning to escape. >> what did he say? >> because the way he was talking to us. the fact that he said he was going to be -- the phone he was using was not going to work anymore. he would be out of communication for...
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government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> this awards dinner was in honor of the late jack kemp. of course he was a former congressman. he was a cabinet secretary, vice presidential nominee and a real hero to the conservative clause. rubio got the award this year, the first year they gave the award, ryan got the award. christine. >> jack kemp had influence on ryan's development as a politician. >> very much so. >> they joked about the race in 2016. didn't they? >> yes. 2016 is a long way away. there's a lot of attention on both of these guys. both of them made light of it at the top of their speeches. >> as you know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far. i'll see you at the reunion din, table for two. >> thank you for your invitation in iowa and new hampshire. i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> iowa, new hampshire, south caroli
government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> this awards dinner was in honor of the late jack kemp. of course he was a former congressman. he was a cabinet secretary, vice presidential nominee and a real hero to the conservative clause. rubio got the award this year, the first year they gave the award, ryan got the award. christine. >> jack kemp had influence on ryan's development as a politician....